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z28melissa
Adrian, MI

August 2, 2008 1:44 PM

I've got this ivy-covered bed next to my pond. As you can see there is one yellow lily plant, and some montauk daisies that bloom in the fall. There's also a few yellow tulips scattered around. The bed is lined with rocks which the ivy is almost completely covering.

This bed is so bare looking the majority of the year, anyone have ideas on what to plant there? I do want to keep the ivy, I think it looks nice, so I was thinking an ornamental tree or two? And you can see how the ivy has grown down to the water line (excuse my weeds!)... should I trim that up to the edge of the bed or leave it spilling down like that? And what about the rocks between the bed and the grass, should I keep them covered in ivy or trim the ivy up to the inside of the rocks?

I'm pretty new to gardening and it's hard to imagine what will work and what won't, so ANY ideas are welcome! :)

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flowerjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2008 10:15 PM

Are you looking to remove all the grass?

z28melissa
Adrian, MI

August 2, 2008 10:54 PM

no no, the lawn is staying!

ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

August 2, 2008 11:25 PM

Is that a natural pond there or one you did complete with pond liner, etc? If it's a natural pond, I expect the soil in that area is fairly heavy and rather wet much of the time, especially when you think about how a tree's roots are going to spread as it grows that's going to limit your choices somewhat.

z28melissa
Adrian, MI

August 2, 2008 11:32 PM

It's man-made, but no liner. That's the height of the water table throughout the property, the bed is about 3 ft above the water line most of the year. Are there any types of ornamental trees that would thrive so close to the pond? There are maples and mulberry trees lining the other side of the pond, and they seem to do just fine, but of course I'd want something that will stay a little smaller.

DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

August 5, 2008 5:51 AM

Birch should grow on the waters edge.

I would move the boulders, the ivy will always grow back over them.

You could add a couple of plants, same species as those on the other side of you canoe access.

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amisheliot
Lima, OH

August 10, 2008 2:02 PM

If you want to use trees, something that does well near water, such as a clump River Birch or Paper Birch would work very well. They thrive in wet ground. Same thing with many of the willows. A neat one I have is a Weeping Pussy Willow. They are only about 6 feet tall. You could also use some shrubbery. Barberry's are one of my favorite, I have them planted all around my house. And one benefit is that they will grow nearly anywhere you plant them with minimal maintenance. However, if you have children they may not be a wise choice. Barberry's have thorns, and they can be a pain to clean out in the springtime. One very neat tree/shrub combo that I have done is a Crimson Frost Clump Birch combo with Magic Carpet Spirea around the base. Goldmound Spirea would also make a very nice substitte, but gets a little larger.
Also, I would do as Dale suggested. Repeat the same plants from one side to the other to create uniformity. About all that I could make out was the Rudbekia and the Daylilys.
As far as the Ivy goes, do with it what you wish. Personally I hate Ivy, and have found several alternatives that are cleaner, and much easier to maintain such as Vinca, ground cover Junipers and Carefree Cotoneaster. But if you want to keep it, I would trim it us to keep it out of the yard and display the rock edge. If you don't like the way it looks, give it a few months and it will have rocks covered again. One thing to caution with the ivy is that you keep it out of the plants/bushes you plant in the bed, otherwise it can "strangle" them and kill them.

Rumble40
Van Nuys, CA

August 12, 2008 7:25 PM

I think you should take out the Ivy and put a different type of plant or flowers there...or since u want to keep the ivy take out half of it and then add colorful flowers and plants next to it and cover the whole thing

z28melissa
Adrian, MI

August 22, 2008 11:01 PM

Thank you for the suggestions!
Last week I trimmed the ivy on the pond side, and it looks much cleaner. I think this weekend I will trim it up on the lawn side, to show the rocks.
I'm leaning toward the weeping pussy willow too, as I will be planting regular weeping willows throughout the rest of my yard soon so it will tie in well.

WeeNel
Ayrshire Scotland
(United Kingdom)

September 1, 2008 9:23 PM

Find out the spread of the other willows you intend to plant as most willows will send roots out toward water/moisture and that includes your drains and foundations, so be cautious with willows, they are beautiful trees but not suitable for every situation because of the damage they can cause. dont know your soil type but, if you have an acid soil, small Rhododendrons/Azaleas can look good reflecting on water and you can get some evergreen ones that look good when the new growth starts to grow after the flowering period passes, a soil tester kit from the garden store will be good to tell you what type of soil you have. good luck. WeeNel.

nanbernier
St. Robert, MO
(Zone 5b)

October 9, 2008 11:23 AM

I'd try looking at that pic again and taking it with you when you shop. You need the 2 beds to relate to each other in some small ways. Keep the boulder edge trimmed up, fimd some dark red shrub/tree, some yellow varigated something...

Hemophobic
Kannapolis, NC

October 21, 2008 8:53 PM

I'd get rid of the ivy, as it will cover anything planted there eventually. Definitely need to repeat some of the plants in the other bed for continuity. Maybe a smoke tree, Cotinus, at the upper edge with some iris and daylilies. Just off the top of my head.
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